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		<title>By: nestor</title>
		<link>http://groundtruth.info/AstroStat/slog/people/comment-page-1/#comment-942</link>
		<dc:creator>nestor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 11:13:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comment Vinay. Yes I see that. I am just intrigued at the
way people bin and report their findings. A 0.2 sigma shift for a
couple of sources would create a nearly normal
distribution. This experiment has only detected the Crab nebula	at 6 sigma
and now it&#039;s making a significant leap in its detection limits albeit at a
purported 2 sigma. The equivalent in X-rays would be an experiment that only
detects is the Crab at 5 sigma, sees nothing in between and then
publishes a paper claiming two sigma detections for the faintest sources
in the Chandra deep field under the same argument. Would you believe
such a claim?. It looks statistically sound but there is counterintuitive here
that just doesn&#039;t compute. Thanks again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comment Vinay. Yes I see that. I am just intrigued at the<br />
way people bin and report their findings. A 0.2 sigma shift for a<br />
couple of sources would create a nearly normal<br />
distribution. This experiment has only detected the Crab nebula	at 6 sigma<br />
and now it&#8217;s making a significant leap in its detection limits albeit at a<br />
purported 2 sigma. The equivalent in X-rays would be an experiment that only<br />
detects is the Crab at 5 sigma, sees nothing in between and then<br />
publishes a paper claiming two sigma detections for the faintest sources<br />
in the Chandra deep field under the same argument. Would you believe<br />
such a claim?. It looks statistically sound but there is counterintuitive here<br />
that just doesn&#8217;t compute. Thanks again.</p>
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		<title>By: vlk</title>
		<link>http://groundtruth.info/AstroStat/slog/people/comment-page-1/#comment-938</link>
		<dc:creator>vlk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 17:30:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems that what they are doing is to compute a significance for every source in their catalog and compare the distribution of significances to what would be expected from a Gaussian distribution.  They find 7 sources at significances &gt;2sigma.  Seeing 7 out of 27 (25%) at &gt;2sigma is not very probable, so, in conjunction with the coincidence of these sources with known pulsars, they claim the detection.  2 sigma implies that 5% of the time a random deviation can produce numbers greater than that threshold.  Because it is a two-sided distribution, on the upper side that is a 2.5% probability, which, for 27 sources, implies 0.6 sources are expected to exceed that number.

I think the methodology is fine.  It is a combination of marginal detections superposed on known catalog sources that makes the cut.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems that what they are doing is to compute a significance for every source in their catalog and compare the distribution of significances to what would be expected from a Gaussian distribution.  They find 7 sources at significances &gt;2sigma.  Seeing 7 out of 27 (25%) at &gt;2sigma is not very probable, so, in conjunction with the coincidence of these sources with known pulsars, they claim the detection.  2 sigma implies that 5% of the time a random deviation can produce numbers greater than that threshold.  Because it is a two-sided distribution, on the upper side that is a 2.5% probability, which, for 27 sources, implies 0.6 sources are expected to exceed that number.</p>
<p>I think the methodology is fine.  It is a combination of marginal detections superposed on known catalog sources that makes the cut.</p>
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		<title>By: nestor</title>
		<link>http://groundtruth.info/AstroStat/slog/people/comment-page-1/#comment-937</link>
		<dc:creator>nestor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 09:03:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>has anyone read this paper?. it has been accepted by ApJ Letters. 

http://arxiv.org/abs/0912.0386

can multiple 2-sigma detections a detection make without stacking?. i would appreciate any comments. a baffled scientist. 

Thanks,
nestor</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>has anyone read this paper?. it has been accepted by ApJ Letters. </p>
<p><a href="http://arxiv.org/abs/0912.0386" rel="nofollow">http://arxiv.org/abs/0912.0386</a></p>
<p>can multiple 2-sigma detections a detection make without stacking?. i would appreciate any comments. a baffled scientist. </p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
nestor</p>
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